This is where I will collect all the tidbits I can find about upcoming JR Ward books.
Be warned – there are SPOILERS!!!
**New information in RED.**
Highlights of BDB World from JR Wards’ Message Board
Untitled Book #10:
Hero – Tohr
Heroine – No’One
Highlights of BDB World from JR Wards’ Message Board
Untitled Book #10:
Hero – Tohr
Heroine – No’One
Lover Unleashed Spoilers:
- Butch and Manny share the same father.
- We now know the vision Qhuinn sees when he briefly dies in Lover Enshrined . He sees a girl, that looks exactly like Layla, but with his mismatched eyes. Implying that he sees the future and he will one day have a daughter with Layla. In Lover Unleashed, he assures himself he won’t have sex with Layla.
- Qhuinn admits to Layla he has feelings for Blay.
- Butch and Vishous have a BDSM scene where V submits to him.
- Xcor, Throe, and Zypher are introduced. They fight lessors, but they also want to fight Wrath to be King.
- Veck is introduced as Jose de la Cruz’s new partner. He will be the Hero in Envy (Fallen Angel #3)
Lover Mine – My Review.
Lover Mine Spoilers:
- Lash has Qhuinn’s brother frozen
- Blay loses his virginity to Saxton
- Qhuinn admits he is gay – to himself. He also fools around with Layla, who thinks she is in love with him.
- No’one comes to the mansion with Payne. She has been a servant of sorts on the other side.
- No’one is Xhex’s mother.
- Payne was raised to believe Vishous was dead. They meet at end of book.
- Murhder is residing in North Carolina.
Envy – #3 in Fallen Angel Series. Release date TBA
- She did confirm that a major character of the 3rd Fallen Angel book will be in Lover Unleashed. This ends up being Veck.
- Will Jim Heron, Adrian Vogel, or Eddie Blackhawk (Fallen Angels series) be one of the souls to be saved? Yes she says, but will not say who.
Hero – Isaac Rothe (seen on page 326 of Covet)
Heroine – Grier Childe (an attorney) JR Wards talk about her HERE.
- Described as “mixed marital artist fighter, motherfucker sociopath“
- Jim having sex with Devina, will have major repercussions for a long time
- Devina can take on any form – she can show up as man, woman or child.
- We have not met the heroine that will be in Crave (B&N chat)
- She doesn’t know if Jim is going to “fail” so she is not sure what will happen when he wins four times (in a seven book series) (B&N chat)
- We will be seeing the dead girl hanging in Devina’s place again (10/20 chat)
- There is bad blood between the “four guys in the sky” and Adrian and Eddie (B&N chat)
- Adrian and Devina have a history together
- Jim’s dog has significance (B&N chat)
- More information on Isaac and his heroine Grier
- Quote from Isaac to Grier “You know, you can do more than just look at it if you want.”
- Eddie, Adrian and Jim end up having wings in Crave (link and link)
- There will be an excerpt from Lover Unleashed at the back of Crave.
Other General News
- Murhder, Lassiter, and Tohr have been confirmed to get their own books
- The following pairings have been NIXED by JR Ward: Layla+Tohr, Layla+Lassiter, Layla+Blay, Nalla+Tohr, Nalla+Qhuinn
- Deleted scene from Covet – go HERE
- JR Ward mentioned in Barnes and Noble chat that she can’t wait to write Trez’s book. Not sure if she means for it to be in BDB world or Covet.
- Qhuinn and Blay are confirmed HEA’s!!!! Team Qhuay! Here is LINK where she confirms it.
- Lassiter is definitely staying in BDB world – she doesn’t know if he is the same type of angel as Adrian and Eddie. (10/20 chat)
- Wrath and Beth eventually have a son
- JR Ward was asked if Qhuinn and Blay will end up in a threesome relationship (with a girl) and her answer is keep reading
- She talks more about Qhuinn and Blay HERE
- Will Lassiter become part of her Fallen Angels series, instead of BDB?? JR Ward says maybe.
- She knows who Trez and iAm end up with (there are female shadows) and she is not sure when their books will be done. Stated HERE on message boards.
- In this POST, JR Ward talks about how she will deal with the Qhuinn/Blay relationship. At this point she is not sure if it will be subplots, a special book etc…but it sounds like their story WILL be told.
- John Matthew will never know for sure that he used to be Darius. In Dark Lover, the scribe virgin told Darius he will have no conscious memory in his new life. Once JM gets to the fade, all will be revealed.
- Publisher just bought two short stories – one featuring Rhage, Mary and their baby troubles which she will begin to write in two weeks. The second will feature, Wrath, son of Wrath the future king which she will start this winter. They will be in paperback.
- There will be more with Murdher – he has some big surprises in store.
- She has talked to producers about a possible series/miniseries/movie. She is looking for the right producer to do it. Right now, she is just happy about the books.
- When asked if there will be new characters introduced, she says there are three males from the Old Country waiting in the wings – she is not sure when they will be introduced. The training center will also be active again.
- JM and Qhuinn will definitely be inducted into the brotherhood – Blay, she said we’ll see and gave her standard – keep reading.
- We will be seeing Qhuinn’s frozen brother (who Lash had) in a future book
- Will Layla get her own book? That is a big Keeeep Reading
- We are getting 6 new brothers. One will be named “Xcor” (pronounced Core)
- Lassiter gets his own book, but not before Tohr.
- Tohr’s mate has been confirmed as No’One (Xhex’s mother).
- JR re-confirms that Rhage and Mary will get a baby in their Slice of Life. Both Slices of Life are still on schedule. Sometime in later 2011. By around June or so, we should get their exact release dates. (Wrath/Beth is the other Slice of Life being released)
- Yes, the promise that SV demanded from Wrath will come to light but she doesn’t know when or where.
- Re-confirmation that Lash isn’t really dead, due to the manner of his death (no Butch soul-sucking occurred). JR doesn’t know when he’ll appear again. “Not anytime soon”
- Re-confirms that JM and the brothers will NEVER know that he his Darius, reincarnated. But JM’s seizures will continue to occur from time to time.
The following are notes from her Lover Unleashed signing in March 2011. For full transcript go HERE.
- Xhex and Murdher have more in common than Xhex knows.
- Sympaths will become a threat again.
- Butch and Manny’s father should be revealed eventually.
- Qhuinn’s brother is still alive but not healthy.
- Mary/Rhage, Wrath/Beth novellas will show new young.
- We will see who the leader of the Glymera is in Tohr’s book.
- Refused to answer who Throe is related to.
- We will learn more about Xcore – apparently he has an “amazing backstory”
- There will be a lot of John Matthew in Tohr’s book.
- JM and Murdher will have a confrontation at some point. (source)
- Jose’ de la Cruz will NOT eventually find Butch (source)
- Xcor and Throe will each have his own book. Hinted that No’One may be Throe’s sister (source)
- (Quoted directly from HERE) When asked at this point if there would be other species introduced she said there was one word that answered that question. You’ll find it on page two of Payne’s book. Because I’m nice, I’ll quote it for you so you don’t have to go look it up:
- …Handpicked and chosen wisely, these males were deadly against the enemy and codeless when it came to vampire society. Codeless when it came to killing as well: It mattered not whether the prey was slayer or human or animal or WOLFEN. Blood would flow.
YAY! First comment! Woo-Hoo!!!
Notice there isn't a nix on a Layla/Qhuin pairing. Hmm…. I actually have thought of a Qhuinn/Nalla pairing, and got all warm and fuzzy thinking about those two. Shame it's not meant to be – mind you, that would be quite a wait for Qhuinn and his happy ending.
Love your new look (especially this JR Ward spoiler page – much needed!)
I've been wondering for awhile now if Tohr's HEA may be No'One. I guess we'll just have to "Keeeeeeeeep Reeeeeaaaadddding"!
Krystean – that is my guess. Before Lover Avenged, JR Ward said we have "seen" Tohr's mate but we haven't "heard" her. I have no idea if this statement changes in LA, but No'One definitely fits that :)
There was something else I noticed, and I don't know if anyone else saw it as well, but when JR did an online Q/A with Barnes & Noble(I think it was just the day before the chat on the BDB message board on Oct. 21) she said in response to someone that she never actually said that Rhage & Mary were going to "adopt" their baby, which I thought was interesting. I'm going to have to try to find that again and re-read it to confirm.
AHH – she did? I missed that..I am going to have to go back. Let me know if you find it. Thanks!
I wonder how else they are going to get a baby?
I finally found what J.R. said in response to a comment about Rhage and Mary adopting. Here is the link to the page and it's about 3/4's of the way down on page 13. Not sure how to take it. You're right, how else would they have a baby if it didn't involve some sort of adoption? Vampire stork delivery? :) Can't wait to find out!
http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com/t5/Center-Stage/J-R-Ward-October-19-23/td-p/395770/page/13
Thanks so much for finding that! So what does that mean – she says "I'm not sure I ever said they were adopting." I swear she did! :)
Well – I guess we can assume Rhage and Mary are going to have baby issues – whether she is the one that wants one, Rhage doesn't, how they go about it, who knows.
Well, whatever happens, it must be fairly substantial. At some point in that Q&A she talks about telling their story in the same format as Zsadist, Bella & Nalla in Father Mine because (just paraphrasing her!) I think it was too much for a SOL and maybe not right for a subplot. But I can't wait to find out!!
Neat page, Mandi! :)
I used to be a BDB Addict a few years ago and an active Cellie, but I kind of lost my passion for the series along the way. Somewhere after Lover Unbound my obsession with Ward and her world fizzled out. In fact, I'm waiting for Lover Avenged to come out in paperback to read it. However, I still feel rather invested in her characters and really want to follow through with their stories until everyone I care about has their HEA.
With that being said, I admit feeling rather disappointed to learn that Qhuinn and Blay are each other's HEAs. I love their closeness and their kiss in Phury's book–in fact, thought that scene was one of the most powerful in the book, but really didn't feel they were mates. I can understand Qhuinn flirting with bisexuality–that feels right for him, but feel, or rather, felt convinced his HEA would be with a female. I adore both of these characters and will, in the end, be happy to see them happy… but together? I don't know….
"Qhuinn and Blay are confirmed HEA's!!!! Team Qhuay! Here is LINK where she confirms it."
From the link: I'll tell you, I too am a member of Team Qhuay! And they will get their HEA you just have to hang with me through LOVER MINE! Promise it's going to be okay
Huh. I don't read that as necessarily saying they are EACH OTHERS' hea. You know how the Warden is tricky like that. And I thought she had specifically said on the board that Q ends up with a female?
She is tricksy with her words:) But they are definitely confirmed. Here it is on her message boards – http://jrwardbdb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28415
You know, I swear she said Qhuinn was going to end up with a female. I think maybe she changed her mind or who knows.
I bow down to you Mandi. This is awesome!!!
Great new updates, Mandi!
I love JR Ward's comment about Qhuinn's sex life – "With people other than Blay, sex is like eating- you feed the hunger and walk away from the table."
That is *so* true!
I really hope Qhuinn and Blay are each other's HEA, or they each get their own HEA… I'm not too keen on them living a menage lifestyle with a woman.
I'm not happy with Qhuinn and Blay being eachother's HEA. This really turned me off a little to the books. I know she explained it all but I still felt she should have made it turn out differently.
people have lots of sex for various reasons..not feeling whole…or valued due to past circumstances..like how Qhuinn's family was to him…
He still could of found a female that made that all change for him.
I think Saxton should of been Blay's HEA.
I'll keep reading the series…just not as passionately as I once did unless something changes to make me really love it again.
I liked this series when it started. Loved the first four books but since then, it's all been downhill for me. V's book did not do him justice and Ward wrote his character into one I disliked. I felt ripped off with the entire Jane-the-ghost doctor who she then tried to make more "un-ghost" like to please unhappy fans. The gay-blades Blay-Qhuinn-V-Saxon, well that should be a separate series. I fell for her Brotherhood mate for life line, then she offs Wellsie. She may as well make Jane disappear so Butch can come out of the closet and be with V. I'm just not interested and have stopped buying her books.
This is my favorite vamp series hands down. V is my favorite brother (although the whole ghost shellan thing kinda bugged me). Love how you have a JR Ward section, I just became a follower because of it :-) Can't wait till she announces the virtual signing so I can order my copy of Lover Mine!
Babz – I have heard several people feel the way you do. I really don't think Qhuinn will get his own book, so it will probably just be a secondary story.
Anon – The series does have a different feel to it after the first four books. I didn't like Jane becoming a ghost either. Sorry you don't like it anymore :)
Paranormal Haven – Thanks!!! I heart V too…and yeah, wasn't a fan of Jane the ghost. I can't wait for her virtual signing either!
A friend told be about BDB series and I was intrigued so I went out and bought Dark Lover. It sat next to my bed for awhile. I couldn't bring myself to get involved with vampires when I was having such a great time with Dukes. The boys even traveled with me and yet I didn't read the book. But when I finally did i couldn't stop. I cried reading Eternal and Lover Awakened. I love Zsadist and LOVE John Matthew and can not wait for Lover Mine!
Don't you love it when books surprise you like that? I started the first chapter of Dark Lover and put it down for a few weeks. So glad I picked it back up!!
I sniffled a bit with Rhage and Z – and JM is my man ;) Soooo looking forward to April!!!
Her first few books were really amazing, but then it went kinda downhill for Butch, V, and Phury.. But it got a lto better with Lover Avenged! Rehv is definitely my favorite now ;) Hahaha.. I'm really curious abut Lassiter, and hope he doesn't end up with one of the Chosen. Probably the only thing I dislike about these books is the quickness in which the Brothers mate.. Like one after another!
Yeah, I wonder who Lassiter will hook up with? She kind of hinted he might go into her fallen angle series..who knows!
I guess once the brother's bonding scent starts coming out, mating can't be helped..LOL.
I feel real dumb for asking but what does HEA stand for?
HEA=Happily Forever After AKA their mate, the person they will end up with :)
Not a dumb question at all!!! :)
i love these books so much, sherilyn kenyon Dark-Hunter series is the only books that come close to her greatness..HAHA
i thought butch & marissa's book ending was shiiiiiiiit.
felt like the book was just a filler so she could move on and wouldnt have to bring up butch and marissa again.
You knew what was going to happen they would get togther. she would still be a virgin. he would be a vamp.
anyways.
I LOVE JM
he is the best character, the best background. life on the street. being raped. ect.
and boom hes a vamp and then booom hes D's son the queens brother.
BUUUUUT i think he is actually sharing his body with his dad
scribe virgin said she would bring him but he wouldnt remember beth and hello when jm meets beth and theres a voice in his head and it keeps happening and he has D's memories. and he was born with D's brotherhood start shape scar
i think in lover mine D will somehow get out of jm's body
and doc janes manny is a half breed vamp. V and xhex both smelt him.
I CANT WAIT till V meets his sister Payne. its going to be sooooooooooooo good. so good.
and as much as i love a bit of gay love. qhuin and blay cant be together their bestfriends. and like ur all saying qhuin needs a women hes not gay he just loves sex and hes 27 and only just started to have sex hes just exploring buttttttt blay is gay and i dont think he will have his own book but qhuin will and in his book it will tell blays love storie
This is an amazing page. Thanks for all the info you've gathered along the way. I so love this series. It's gotta be one of my all time favs.
Looking forward to the next book – Lover Mine. It's on preorder and guh, the date is to far off!! I can't wait to read all that's going to happen from all the different plots and story lines. So glad to hear there will be many more books to come!
Thanks again for all this, it's amazing!
I soo needed this, ive been waiting for this book to cum out forever, As for is D, JM… D IS JM, D can't not cum out of JM because he is him JM Is not D's Son N Beth Is JM's Daugher n i don't think Blay n Qhuinn will be each others HEA either…Im feeling pretty good because i just knew Manny was a vamp when we got to know who he was, i guessed on the hole him n Payne would get together…I also guessed on Layla n Tohr, lol i also guessed on Nalla n Qhuinn…im glad im not the only one who thought that cause i felt a little weird for thinkin a baby n Qhuinn would get together…I luv JM n Xhex's characters together now…At first i really didn't like them together but in Lover Avenged when i seen Xhex really had feelings, n loved John, i was like Totally on Xhex side lol n was soo mad at John for what havin sex with her like that…but in the end He showed me why he was one of my fav characters…
Oh THANK YOU so much for compiling all of this here in one page for us, you are awesome. I try to follow the BDB yahoo user group emails and BDB message boards and it's hard to keep everything summarized so, you rock.
I CANNOT FREAKING WAIT UNTIL LOVER MINE!
Blay and Qhuinn are awesome together, but I so wanted a female for Qhuinn to fuel my vicarious fantasies!
Thank you for posting notes re: the BDB chat of 5/13 – missed it since I can't be in a meeting at the arts center and home on my PC at once.
Re: Q & B and Lover Mine, etc. = IMHO, Qhuinn did not admit to himself he was 'gay', so much as confirmed to his known bisexuality that he has both physical and romantic feelings for Blaylock; yes, strong feelings.
Blay has recognized his homosexual orientation.
Whether or not their relationship develops a polyamory bent, involving a female – well, it's always been the niggling suspicion in the back of my mind that she'll go that route, but the WARDen will do has the story tells her. :)
Drama Queen – I agree that he confirms his bisexuality – but I also thought he took it one step further and admitted to himself he was gay – but really, labels are not needed. He knows where his feeling lay – poor Blay..:)
I have a niggle that Layla is going to be involved too..I hope that she pairs her with Murdher or someone else…We shall see…..
Mandi – thank you so much for placing all the highlights of LOVER MINE and the upcoming book here! :-) I can't wait to read about Manny (found him hot the first time and I believe things are gonna get even hotter) and Payne, so WOOHOO!
By the way, since this is a SPOILER page, can I ask you to enlighten me on the "frozen brother of Qhuinn who Lash had"? I think I totally missed this part while I was reading LOVER MINE (I was too hot bothered with JM and Xhex, a swell as the tension between Blay and Qhuinn). :-) Who's Qhuinn's frozen brother and when did Lash "have" him?
Camry – I need some of your excitement over Payne and Manny ;)
I have Lover Mine loaned out at the moment, but I don't think we know when Lash takes him. In Lover AVENGED remember when Q's brother helps to beat him up…later in the book is it mentioned that no one knows where he is? (or am I making that up?) In Lover Mine, towards the beginning, Lash says to himself, he is happy to have Q's brother frozen. JR Ward says we will see him again..that is all we know :)
Mandi – Man, oh, man, does my memory needed a good jolting. Hahaha! Thank you for reminding me of that. My mom and sister are currently grappling with LOVER MINE so I couldn't check on the whole "Lash had Q's frozen brother" bit. :-)
Oh, and I have to thank you immensely for smexybooks.com. Because of this website, my collection of urban fantasy, paranormal romance and the like has grown so much over the last how many months compared to my collecting habit the past how many years. :-) Kudos to you and I hope to hear more good reviews from you in the future, as well as information on Ward's world. Keep at it!
Thanks so much!!! :) :)
Mandi I just wanted to thank you again for keeping this page up – I come here frequently for reference when discussing the BDB series :P
No prob Pamela ;) We should be getting the title to Payne and Manny's book sooooooon….
I jumped into that B&N link to read Ward's confirmation about B & Q. *deep breath in and out* So, so, so happy now. I amazed myself rereading B & Q's moment over and over. It nearly stole the show for me. (Darn-it, now I have to go and read it again and I have a pile of TBR. I'm so juiced for LoverMine.)
The question now is when will their HEA come out?
Thanks Smexy Books. You're awesome.
Hi Sandra!
Rumor has it she has officially sold her two novellas…the first will be Rhage and Mary, with Blay and Quinn to follow. No news on release dates yet! But I will post it when I hear. I can't wait for their story…their part in Lover Mine killed me!! :)
"Will Layla get her own book? That is a big Keeeep Reading :)"
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Urgh. I *hate* Layla with a fiery, fiery passion. She is such a Mary-Sue goody, goody. I was hoping she would be relegated to the 'Fallen Angels' series, thereby saving a brother from becoming her Hellren.
Wow so much to digest thanks for going to all that trouble, but I guess it was more a labour of love that you just had to share…lucky us.
I love the Warden & the BDB world keeps getting more & more awesom!!! Woohoo.
She knows who is the next Brother! Yeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssss! *faints* \o/
I saw that on her facebook!!!! But whooooooo????? :)
It's Tohr, Mandi!!! Tohr's getting his own book!!! Kyaaa~!!!
Thor will be the next.
http://www.facebook.com/JRWardBooks#!/video/video.php?v=10150126197366120&oid=29402628230&comments
Woohoo! I'm excited for Tohr!
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