Welcome to the Dreamfever discussion! We’ve made it to book four and we only have a few short days until we get our hands on the very coveted Shadowfever. We can barely stand it!
Since this is the most current book, we can now talk about EVERYTHING. So please be warned that if you are not current with the series, there are big spoilers below.
Also, thanks to a very generous offer from author TJ Michaels, we are giving away TWO copies of Shadowfever (to be pre-ordered). Read on to find out how to enter.
Facts regarding the night Mac is raped/Walls come down:
Mac is raped the by three Unseelie Princes. However, there is a fourth person present who doesn’t show his face. Mac guesses it is the Unseelie Prince of War, but it is not confirmed. Why does he hide? V’lane had no idea a fourth Unseelie prince was present at Mac’s rape. Mac couldn’t swear the 4th was Fae, just intensely sexual. Darroc says – "the fourth Unseelie Prince was killed hundreds of thousands of years ago, in battle between the queen and king."
Barrons tells Mac – IYD would have worked on her phone that night even with all cell service down. She didn’t try it.
"Him. He’s here. The one who killed Alina. Please, please don’t let him touch me." (Mandi & Sophia believe Darroc when he says he did not kill Alina, so who is this? Is Mac referring to Darroc? Or are her overloaded, Pri-ya senses telling her the 4th rapist is the one who killed Alina.)
Darroc was able to block ALL Fae magic the night the walls come down. V’lane is unable to sift during that time. He had to physically carry the queen, which is the excuse he used for not being there to save Mac.
Now IFPs "Inter-dimensional Fairy Potholes" are popping up everywhere, taking you into Fairy.
V’lane is at the abbey sifting Rowena around – however, he iced her the night Mac disappeared looking for her.
At least two billion people have died since walls came down. (Mac’s parents are alive)
More Fae Facts:Iron interferes with Unseelie power..and if you have enough, can trap them. Detective Jayne, and his men discovered this. They are also eating Unseelie flesh and fighting the Fae. They are keeping some Fae in iron cages.
Barrons taught Darroc Voice (as an exchange for information). Mac is immune to Darroc’s voice but not Barrons.
Darroc has Cruce’s amulet. Unseelie fear it – keeping him safe from them. Barrons says Cruce is dead. (see more about Cruce below)
The Keltars believe they are “the five” related to the Haven Prophecy – Drustan, Daegues, Cian, Christopher and Christian.
So there are two separate parts to the Silvers. One is a collection of possibly infinite mirrors that connect to other dimensions, worlds, and times, from the main airport in the Hall of All Days. The other is a sealed-off smaller network that’s where the concubine lived.
His [Cruce] curse will never die. It corrupted the Silvers irrevocably. What was once as easily navigated network is now a place of complete chaos. Now some Silvers take you to the Hall, but others don’t. Worlds and dimensions are fractured and are splintered with IFPs. …The Hall of All Days collided with the concubine’s realm, with parts of Faery, and some of it even crashed into the Dreaming.
[The Dreaming] doesn’t belong to the Fae. The Dreaming is far older and belongs to no one. It’s where all hopes, fantasies, illusions, and nightmares of sentient beings come to be or go to rest, whichever you prefer to believe.
[The Silvers] are no longer a realm of the present, but hold the residue of the past. Some say they’re also projections of all the possibles, that they really have become the Hall of All Days that have ever been and ever will be.
Barrons comes to the rescue with 8 other men similar to him. "They all move sleek and strange. Ooze arrogance like Fae, but they are not Fae."
When Dani and Barrons are rescuing Mac, an Unseelie Prince sifts in to Mac’s cell, but he is more scared of Barrons than he is of Mac’s sword.
Barrons (and the 8 others like him) can catch or stop Dani when she is in super speed.
Mac retrieves a memory from Barrons – He is in a desert, alone..so alone. Surrounded – he wonders "Have they gotten to her? Does she know? Will she denounce us? Turn her face away? She is our world….Will she love us now? We who have never known uncertainty or fear now know both in what is absurdly the moment of our greatest strength. (read pg 32 for entire quote)
Mac continuously refers to Barrons as "beast" while she is in pri-ya state. She also refers to the Book as the “beast.”
According to Christian, Barrons and Christian both disappear in Scotland while performing the ritual the night the walls come down. They ended up in the Silvers, being thrown from landscape to landscape, until eventually, Christian lands in the Hall of All Days and Barrons went somewhere else (no one knows where.) All we know is that Barrons comes back to Dublin four days later..
Pg 133 – another Barrons Memory – he is having sex wtih a "Fae" princess. He spent months in her bed, studying the seelie court. See pg 133 for entire memory. On pg 134 – Barrons kills the princess – so they start to remember how to fear.
V’lane cannot kill Barrons, but Barrons can kill Fae. We know this because he killed the Princess. Mac wonders if he how he kills Fae. Does he have a weapon?
Pg 264 – Mac "sees" a memory of Barrons holding a child (at least we assume it is Barrons and his child) and the child dies in his arm.
Fiona and Barrons – "Why are you here, Fiona. To show me you have a new lover? To beg to return to my bed? It’s full, and always will be. To apologize for trying to destroy the one chance I had by killing her?"
(Mac) "The one chance you had for what?"
Fiona looked at me sharply, then at Barrons, and began to laugh. "Ah, such delicious absurdity! She still doesn’t know. Oh, Jericho! You never change, do you? You must be so afraid – " At this points Barrons stabs Fiona to shut her up. (What are they talking about?)
Our Favorite Quotes about Barrons:
“Look at you. All stalky and badass.”
“Stalky. Do you think that is a word, Ms. Lane?”
"He comes hard, shuddering. I match him, bucking with each shudder. When he comes, he makes a noise deep in his throat that is so raw and animal and sexual that I think if he merely looked at me and made that noise, I might explode in orgasm."
"Open your eyes and say my name." I squeeze them shut more tightly. "It would make my cock hard to hear you say my name." My eyes pop open. "Jericho Barrons."
"Say my name when you tell me to fuck you."
"Fuck me, Jericho Barrons."
"You’re leaving me Rainbow Girl." (Mandi sobs at this point)
Now that Mac has beaten Pri-ya – she is immune to V’lane’s powers (Fae glamour)
After seeing the Book – "I hadn’t actually seen a thing. It had all been illusion, glamour. Which meant the Sinsar Dubh had somehow skimmed my mind and plucked from it the images it believed would draw me in, keep my occupied. Ryodan tells her maybe the Book is tracking HER, and not the other way around.
Mac can us Voice now.
Nana O’Reilly (97 yr old woman) tells Mac her mother’s name is Isla O’Connor. She used to carry the Spear, and was Haven Mistress. Nana says there are two prophecies: "One promised hope. One pledged blight upon the earth and more. Both hinged upon a single thing." (Nana doesn’t know what that "thing" is) Nana says rumor is Mac’s mom removed the book from the abbey
(Mac and Dani) And, honey, sisters forgive each other everything.”
“Really, truly everything?”
As we walked out of the electronics store, I caught a glimpse of her face in the mirror above the door. It was bleak. (Did Dani do something she hasn’t told Mac about? See Discussion)
(Ryodan) “Special rules for you, Mac. You don’t get to kill anything in my club, Fae or human. Your fight is outside these walls. And if Barrons’ belief in you is unfounded, there won’t be anyplace you can hide. Every last one of us will come after you.” (Why?)
(Ryodan) We stared at each other. “Black looks good on you,” he murmured. “Has Barrons seen you like this?” (Why? Is she suppose to remind Barrons of someone?)
Dreamy-eyed boy (who we first meet at Trinity College in a previous book) is at Chester’s (bar owned by Ryodan). "The dreamy-eyed boy was reflected in the mirror below them. I stared. He didn’t look the same in the mirror. He was…blurred around the edges and …wrong, very wrong.
In this "form" he says "Don’t talk to it, beautiful girl. Never talk to it." Mac doesn’t know what "it" he is referring to, but when he unblurs, he says he didn’t say anything. (Sophia’s theory – maybe dreamy eyed guy has been taken over by one of those fae that take over peoples bodies? Maybe dreamy eyed guy is good and battling the fae that inhabits him?) (Mandi nods)
Darroc has Mac’s parents tied up at their house. At the end of the book, we do not know their status.
Mac says: "If I understand the Silvers, they all show destinations. And you expect the LM’s to show a destination, too. So why does your Silver show a pathway winding through what looks like a graveyard haunted by your demons? That’s not a destination." Mac guesses his Silvers connect to what is under his garage.
Because Mac opens the bag of stones inside the Silvers, they convulse, and she ends up in The Hall of All Days. There are BILLIONS of choices. But after walking for some time, she sees Christian in a mirror. Although he tells her not to come, she does anyway.
Christian is injured as they change realms, (by opening the stones) and she feeds him unseelie. He recovers, but his tattoos start to swirl. Based on what Barrons did the night of 10/31
Per Christian (why the stones are an anathema to the Silvers) "Cruce hated the Unseelie King, for many reason, and coveted his concubine. He cursed the Silvers to prevent the king from ever entering them again. He planned to take all the worlds inside the Silvers and the concubine for himself. Be king of all the realms. But a curse is an immensely powerful thig, and Cruce cast it into a vortex of unfathomable power. Like most things Fae, it took on a life of its own."
Stones are trying to get back to where they came from – the Unseelie Prison
Mac and Christian become separated in different realms. Mac calls "IYD" nothing happens at first. But suddenly "an enormous gray beast suddenly exploded in a blur of horns and fangs and talons from nowhere." The beast picks up her stones and her sweater and keeps her protected. It makes the same sound as the thing under Barrons’ garage.
Ryodan then finds her and tries to save her but the creature starts to fight him. He eventually gets thrown off a cliff. But during this fight, Mac stabs the beast with her spear.
"For an awful suspended moment, I could have sworn I saw an accusation of betrayal in its gaze, of disbelief at my foul duplicity, as if we’d had some kind of agreement, an unspoken pact between us. It stared at me with reproach; its yellow eyes burned with hatred for my treason."
The beast dies, and starts to morph into a human. "No!" I screamed. I’d thought I’d lost everything. I hadn’t. I stared at the person who lay dead on the floor of the forest. The person I’d helped kill. NOW I’d lost everything.
Who is the beast at the end? Who matters that much to Mac that she has “now lost everything?” Is it IYD? Barrons? Christian? Is the person altered because she is in a different realm?
Who is the 4th person present at Mac’s rape? Is he the one who killed Alina (as referenced by Mac in the book).
Why was Dani uncomfortable and concerned with Mac’s forgiveness? Has she betrayed Mac in some way? (See the discussion under “Mac” above)
[…]And if Barrons’ belief in you is unfounded, there won’t be anyplace you can hide. Every last one of us will come after you.”
Why will they (Ryodan and friends) all come after her. What do they think she is or has the potential to become? Who are these 8 men that are similar to Barrons?
The book is titled Dreamfever. How do you think this relates to this story? Is the time Mac spends in the Silvers a dream state or reality? Barrons mentions “The Dreaming” (see above) How does this all relate?
Why doesn’t Barrons tell Mac he was “lost” in the Silvers for four days after her rape? And that is why he couldn’t rescue her (this is per Christian). Or is Christian misinformed? Or did Barrons escape the Silvers much quicker than 4 days and do something else?
Author TJ Michaels has recently “caught the fever.” To celebrate this fun series, she is offering to give away TWO copies of Shadowfever. (US/Canada only. No P.O Boxes. Copies will be pre-ordered Hardcovers)
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Winners will be chosen at random, Friday January 14th, at Noon EST.
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